Comments on: What’s wrong with “evidence based” depression treatments? http://overcomingdepressionblog.com/2009/07/01/whats-wrong-with-evidence-based-depression-treatments/ Helping people bounce back and thrive from life's challenges Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:16:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Mandy http://overcomingdepressionblog.com/2009/07/01/whats-wrong-with-evidence-based-depression-treatments/#comment-243 Mandy Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:26:38 +0000 http://overcomingdepressionblog.com/2009/07/01/whats-wrong-with-evidence-based-depression-treatments/#comment-243 There is still incredible stigma- we only pay lip service to it not being so. Often people report to me how disclosing depression has brought great and unfair discrimination- especially if the worker is from a "helping" profession. I think perhaps it is destructive to ones career to disclose- certainly the people who have told their stories to me now are I think more broken than if they had not disclosed. Look too at how suicidal people are treated in an emergency room - I hear health care workers say "Why are they taking up my time? I want to keep alive the people who want to live -not these loosers." What a disgusting and vile attitude- it shows their total ignorance of human ill health which they are supposed to be specialists in. What is wrong with the "helping" professions if they cannot even understand the diseases of mental illness which makes up 30% of our burden of disease??? There is still incredible stigma- we only pay lip service to it not being so. Often people report to me how disclosing depression has brought great and unfair discrimination- especially if the worker is from a “helping” profession. I think perhaps it is destructive to ones career to disclose- certainly the people who have told their stories to me now are I think more broken than if they had not disclosed. Look too at how suicidal people are treated in an emergency room - I hear health care workers say “Why are they taking up my time? I want to keep alive the people who want to live -not these loosers.” What a disgusting and vile attitude- it shows their total ignorance of human ill health which they are supposed to be specialists in. What is wrong with the “helping” professions if they cannot even understand the diseases of mental illness which makes up 30% of our burden of disease???

]]> By: Wes http://overcomingdepressionblog.com/2009/07/01/whats-wrong-with-evidence-based-depression-treatments/#comment-242 Wes Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:42:19 +0000 http://overcomingdepressionblog.com/2009/07/01/whats-wrong-with-evidence-based-depression-treatments/#comment-242 There are a few things I am concerned with in your opinions. The reason why our numbers of depression are "Skyrocketing" is not because of the failure of medication, but because as a society in general, the understanding and knowledge of depression has been increased. The negative stigma of someone having it has largely disappeared. As a society, there is no longer such a negative stigma with it. Often people before would look at that and say "that's not sickness!" or "they're just trying to be lazy..." etc. etc. Also people are more health concious and will now go ahead and get things "fixed" thus more and more people will go to have their depression checked out. While I agree that medication is not just the only answer, it has been shown to help thousands of patients get back on the road to success. There are a few things I am concerned with in your opinions. The reason why our numbers of depression are “Skyrocketing” is not because of the failure of medication, but because as a society in general, the understanding and knowledge of depression has been increased. The negative stigma of someone having it has largely disappeared. As a society, there is no longer such a negative stigma with it. Often people before would look at that and say “that’s not sickness!” or “they’re just trying to be lazy…” etc. etc. Also people are more health concious and will now go ahead and get things “fixed” thus more and more people will go to have their depression checked out.

While I agree that medication is not just the only answer, it has been shown to help thousands of patients get back on the road to success.

]]> By: Mandy http://overcomingdepressionblog.com/2009/07/01/whats-wrong-with-evidence-based-depression-treatments/#comment-202 Mandy Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:11:34 +0000 http://overcomingdepressionblog.com/2009/07/01/whats-wrong-with-evidence-based-depression-treatments/#comment-202 Perhaps of interest http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_depression.html Perhaps of interest http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_depression.html

]]> By: Mandy http://overcomingdepressionblog.com/2009/07/01/whats-wrong-with-evidence-based-depression-treatments/#comment-200 Mandy Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:33:19 +0000 http://overcomingdepressionblog.com/2009/07/01/whats-wrong-with-evidence-based-depression-treatments/#comment-200 I think perhaps this is where we are also not understanding suicide. What do you think of all the different theories and how do you think they fitted with how you and others felt as you were preparing to suicide. Joiner talks about "desensitization" to fear and distress when he talks of combat veterans, doctors, prostitutes and anorexics but my understanding of those who have suicided in this area was that they were very sensitive and possibly had great fear. De Leo talks about great shame and someone else suggested looking more carefully at broken romances and what about them can trigger suicide. I think perhaps this is where we are also not understanding suicide. What do you think of all the different theories and how do you think they fitted with how you and others felt as you were preparing to suicide. Joiner talks about “desensitization” to fear and distress when he talks of combat veterans, doctors, prostitutes and anorexics but my understanding of those who have suicided in this area was that they were very sensitive and possibly had great fear. De Leo talks about great shame and someone else suggested looking more carefully at broken romances and what about them can trigger suicide.

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